|For reactions / suggestions Links International & Dutch (with Dutch Orchestras).|
you remember a tune but not the entire melody or the song title,
you can search for these on the Internet (even if you don't know how to
play the piano). This Music Search Engine, the Melodycatcher, knows
over 400.000 melodies, including all 8500 of Cimbalom.nl ! For many of these
melodies different titles are used. So if you can not find a wanted title,
search for the tune with the MelodyCatcher.
Below you can also do a quick search by text only:
Hungarian Folk Collection
|Intention||Suggestions / Contributions|
|Searching for a melody||©opyright Info|
|HUNGARIAN FOLK MUSIC: SOME HISTORY||LARGE YOUTUBE VIDEO SELECTION|
|Story about the author on the site Messzi tábortüzek|
Obituary Jan van OsJan van Os passed away on the 26th of July, 2016. His friends, with whom he played gypsy music for decades, will remember him sitting behind his cymbal in the middle of the ensemble. During the ceremony, one of the ensemble members -Rolf Schuursma - expressed it as follows: Jan on the cymbal, that's the image I have painted in my mind. There he is, bent over the strings, enthusiastic, confident, a beacon amid the sometimes turbulent waters of our slightly anarchistic gypsy chapel. It was October 1954 when I went to his house in Utrecht, attempting to secure a spot in the illustrious Student Gypsy Chapel Tzigane. Looking back, I can now say that I have succeeded. At that time there was a room full of unfamiliar people. Yntze Loopstra, Bob Phaf, Jan Buskop, Frits ten Cate, Lo Ruyven and let's not forget Gerard Jager and Herman Lamers. In the middle of the ensemble, quiet, helpful, stimulating and tirelessly sat Jan van Os at the cymbal. Much later, after I had long disappeared from the gypsy music due to my work, I got a phonecall. It was Jan. Whether I wanted to join again. Still at Jan's home, which now lived in Voorburg, where he and his wife Lieneke offered their hospitality. There we formed Hon Tzigane. Jan himself, Gerard Jager as always our primas, Herman Lamers at the piano and myself second fiddle. Four honorary of Tzigane, assisted for some time by Kees de Ruiter on alto and from the beginning also with bassist Leo Kortekaas from the Delft Siperkov Ensemble. Jan had a close relationship with the members of this ensemble: Fred Kreuger, Kees van Rossem, Willy East, Rolf Koster and Marius van Meerten. He was was long time part of this ensemble on the cymbal. Accurate, intense and tireless. In our circle, we have experienced Jan in various ways. Such as when he carried his cymbal down the stairs of an academy building, all on his own. Or with his curious habit to lie under his cymbal in the middle of a music performance because there had to be something fixed to the pedal. But of lasting importance was his creation: www.Cimbalom.nl. The database contains around 10,000 melodies of gypsy and Hungarian origin. He poured his heart and soul into this website, and became known and famous all over the world because of it. In recognition of his great achievements Tzigane made him an honorary member. Now his instrument stands abandoned, his place in Hon Tzigane empty. Jan's place behind the cymbal empty. And we miss a very good friend. Rolf Schuursma on behalf of Hon Tzigane.
In The Netherlands more amateur musicians are playing folk and Gipsy music of East European Countries than in any other West European Country. Many years ago I started my home page Cimbalom as a Dutch platform for these musicians and their colleagues in other countries.
During recent years I have collected a large number of Hungarian melodies from various sources and described these as a single voice MIDI file. The purpose of this collection of 8500 melodies (MIDI's), in majority of (Urban) Hungarian Folk music, or in fact in majority Magyar Nótak, but including well over 3000 Népdalok, is to promote these melodies among devotees, and to contribute to the preservation of this type of Folk music. To support the recognition of these simple melodies, in most cases a "Demo" of that melody is added in the form of a short Mp3 file.This collection of Hungarian melodies, although probably the largest one available on line, still has its weak points. Early visitors have recognized the shortcomings due to the lack of specific knowledge and especially my unfamiliarity with the Hungarian language. In the mean time some friends of the site have helped me tremendously in correcting Hungarian titles and translating them into English as well as in providing new melodies.
Al suggestions to improve the site remain welcome. Please e-mail any useful information, preferably in English or in German or French, to: firstname.lastname@example.org
The collection (see also Hungarian Folk Music: some backrgound information)
Currently the collection include some 8500 (monophonic) MIDI's of Hungarian melodies, of which some 4000 are described as Magyar Nóta, some 4000 as Népdalok and some 600 as "Various". The collection further includes some 7000 polyphonic Mp3 files as a "Demo" of these melodies. Connoisseurs will recognize some Népdalok among these Magyar Nóta (indicated with a N behind the title) This is done because these Népdalok became famous among the orchestras playing the Magyar Nóta. Most melodies of the Népdalok, however, were hardly if ever played by these orchestras, partly because of their different and less easy to play style.
Largely Hungarian folk music is divided in two
types of melodies: Népdalok: (Old) Hungarian folk songs (4.00)
0and Magyar Nóta (song) or Nótak (songs) (over 4000): Hungarian
city- or urban music, current Hungarian Folk Music. The distinction between
these categories, however, is not always fully clear, since many of the
better known népdalok also became popular as a Magyar nóta, although usually
somewhat modified and played in the urban style.
Since audio records of the older songs are scarce, they have been collected mainly from numerous sources of digital audio files and scores, available on-line. This on-line availability might indicate that they belong to the better known / remembered ones. In adddition the collection of 600 Népdalok of Messzi tábortüzek is added to this website.
A good overview of such sources of Népdalok is given by the New
Hungarian Millenium: http://www.ujmagyarevezred.nl/nepdal.html
and especially in the sites of Karoly: Magyar
Népdalok I, Magyar
Népdalok II and Magyar
Népdalok III with a further subdivision of these melodies.
Also, as far as not available from other sources, all melodies of 3 widely
available scout song-books, are included: Száz (100) Népi Játékdal,
101 Magyar Népdal and 102 Magyar Népdal "Madárka". We have
included a number of magyarnóta and military songs (mostly not népdal)
from Book I. & II. of an archive:
Since the availablity of polyphonic MP3 files of Népdalok is limited
we have also used demos of vocals for Népdalok. Here we are lucky
to be able to use demos in our Népdalok from award-winning vocalist Juhos
Mária from Slovakia. The beautiful performances can be reached in
full and also downloaded for free at http://magyarnota.com/
Most of the Népdalok are out of the focus of this collection of Magyar Nóta and since the tens of thousands of Népdalok are subject of a more scientific evaluation, it was not our main goal to try to further expand this part of the collection. On-line audio files of Népdalok, however, are scarce, certainly in relation with the numerous sources of lyrics of these melodies. It therefore seemed useful to try to at least collect most of those currently available.
Finally there is a category Various, containing melodies popular among and played by the same orchestras playing the Magyarnóta. Also included in this category are some 200 Gipsy/Roma Songs, with a clearly different style, but for most listeners recognizably related to the Magyarnóta since they originated in the same environment and in a period that this latter music was highly popular.
For all of these reasons melodies are divided into 5 categories:
|Csárdás (C): also including Friss, Palotás and Verbunks, (some times also called Verbunkos)|
|Rubato (R), Lassan (including the Hungarian Hallgató)|
|Song (S), also including Andalgo and Esztam|
|Various (V), including , Gipsy Nóta, Serenades, etc.|
|Népdalok (N) as far as sources were easily available. (See also Népdal info/sources)|
The classification of some melodies might be arbitrary. In some cases even the country of origin might be uncertain. Some Hungarian titles might be incorrect, some are even lacking. But above all it remains difficult to define the type of melodies that should be included to keep the collection authentic. Therefore all Suggestions for improvement are welcome.To avoid doubles in the growing collection, a melody finder was needed. In fact this was the start of the development of a new melody finder, the Melody Catcher: http://www.melodycatcher.com/
|When searching for a Hungarian Title of a melody of one of the categories Csárdás, Rubato, Song or Népdalok: use the button of that category and the alphabet above the page of that category.|
|When searching for a Hungarian Title of a melody of an unknown category use the button Titles followed by the alphabet above that page. Look for the category (C, R,S, V or N) and search again for that title in that category.|
|When searching for a melody use the Melodycatcher|
|When needing a new melody in your repertory just browse through the files!! You will be amazed about the large number of lovely melodies that in these days are hardly played any more.|
|Having found a title you will be surprised about the amount of information that becomes available when searching with that title in Google.|
|The character of the collection is unique in
that all of its abou 7500 MIDI files are Indexed by the 6Melodycatcher.
Therefore all of its melodies can be found by melody input. For those interested
in such a search a few suggestions:
|At most some ten of the first notes of a melody have to be played on the virtual keyboard to find the playable MIDI of that melody and its referring page. Usually this query of the start of a melody gives best results.|
|In case of no results, however, especially when searching for a better known melody, an input error could be the cause of this lack of results. If in doubt about one or more notes, they can be changed by dragging them up or down in the note display or by deleting, changing or adding note names in the note names field.|
|In addition any part of a wanted melody can be entered by using the option Search anywhere in a melody. This can be useful if:.|
|You are uncertain about the first notes of a melody, like whether or not repeated. This is important, since based upon the lyrics the first notes can be repeated in one verse and unrepeated in another verse of the melody.|
|The beginning of the wanted melody is less characteristic and a typical further part of a melody is remembered.|
|Be sure to unheck the option Search anywhere in a melody or use the Reset button before starting a new search.|
|Text search can be used to search for
titles with keywords. Separate more words with space.
Special letters like á, é, ö etc should be avoided.
|Check also the title page, if a title can not be found with text search. Many melodies are known under different titles. The title page contains some 200 additional titles, linked to the title under which the related melody is listed.|
This large collection of Hungarian melodies still has a number of weak
points or short comings:
|The collection might contain some melodies of non Hungarian origin.|
|Of some 90 melodies both a MIDI and an Mp3 Demo is available, but the title is lacking. You can find them at the end of the list of titles in the pages Csárdás, Rubato, Song or Various.|
|Some melodies in Népdalok may not be true népdal, while other categories may include népdaokl.|
|Of some 500 melodies no Mp3 Demo is available|
|Some Mp3 demos are of lower or a less characteristic quality.|
|Some melodies might lack the authentic character to fit in the collection|
|The collection is far from complete, although for this type of music probably the largest collection available on-line|
All information to improve these aspects is welcome. Also welcome are (sources of) Mp3 files of lacking Mp3 Demo's or of Demo's of the collection with a low characteristic quality.
Last but not least: the number of this type of melodies is much larger than so far listed. Therefore new melodies are most welcome. If in doubt you can mail a MIDI or a short MP3 fragment. Because some melodies are known under different titles we also use the earlier mentioned Melody Catcher http://www.melodycatcher.com/ to ensure that that melody is not yet in the collection.
One of them, Árpád Andy Zubrits, needs to be mentioned specifically for all of his efforts. He not only translated almost all Hungarian text to English but also stimulated and helped me find many Népdalok, the folk songs he is also promoting within his Scout organization.
Below the names of these friends of Cimbalom.nl:
|Nickl Károly||Eindhoven The Netherlands|
|Sugatagi Gábor||Budapest Hungary|
|Árpád Andy Zubrits||Toronto Canada (Scoutleader)
|Timothee Ewing||Maple City, Michigan USA|
|Lengyel Boldizsár||Dunaremete Hungary|
|Molnár Béla||Beretke Slovakia|
|Dömötör Gábor||Easton, Connecticut USA|
The Dutch author, Dr J L van Os, Voorburg, started to play East European music on accordion at high school. During his student years from 1950 on he started to play the cimbalom in the Utrechtsche Studenten Zigeuner Kapel Tzigane. Ever since, he has played in several amateur orchestras like Siperkov and Hon Tzigane (see also under Orchestra's on his Web site Cimbalom) Although playing melodies of several East European countries the playing and collection of Hungarian folk music is his favorite hobby.
E-mail contact, preferably in English or if necessity German or French: email@example.com
These pages are intended to be an index of Hungarian melodies for private
Story about the author on the site Messzi tábortüzek
by Gábor Dömötör
A DUTCH VETERINARIAN
Dr. Jan van Os - a Dutch veterinarian and research scientist - is perhaps the greatest foreign collector of Hungarian music. His "CIMBALOM" on-line site already contains more than 5000 melodies. He has played this type of music ever since early childhood. His collection, which at the beginning contained mostly "magyar nóta" and gypsy music, has more recently - in part motivated by Hungarian scouts - expanded significantly into the area of legitimate folksongs. That is how he got to know and appreciate the Messzi tábortüzek collection of folksongs, which, as of June, 2009, he is also presenting as part of his on-line site.
It will probably surprise many people - it certainly did me - that in Holland over 40 orchestras play this type of music. As we found out, in the early 1900's many Hungarian musicians - among them Pali Lakatos, Sándor Vidák, Lajos Veres - visited Holland and achieved great success. As a consequence, the father of Dr. van Os, together with a group of university students, formed an orchestra and began to play. Dr. van Os himself formed a similar orchestra while still in high school. Later on, as a college student, he continued with regular appearances, even performing on transatlantic ships. He continued with this passion when already an active veterinarian and later as a research scientist in industry. Even today, he plays with his orchestra almost every week.
| Dr. van Os told me of two memorable
experiences. One concerns the time when he received his first cimbalom:
at the outbreak of WW II, Timi Balázs, a friend of Dr. van Os' father, brought
over his spare cimbalom in order to avoid possible confiscation by the occupying
The other memorable experience took place on New Year's eve in 1956, when the Dutch people organized a party for the recently arrived Hungarian refugees and asked his university orchestra to play.
As part of his research activities in industry, Dr. van Os became familiar with the new phenomenon of the computer. He perfected his computer skills and, after early retirement, started to build websites.
That is also the time when he began the systematic collection
of melodies. Hungarian music is his preferred genre, although he also
appreciates the music of other surrounding nations.
Oklevél A Külföldi Magyar Cserkészszövetség nevében
In 2010 the Hungarian Scout Association in Exteris celebrates the 100th
anniversary of Hungarian Scouting. Preservation of the rich musical trove of
Hungarian folksongs is an integral part of our goals.
This certificate is extended to
Mr Jan van Os
in gratitude and recognition of his outstanding contributions towards
the collection and dissemination of Hungarian folk-music
New York, 2010 september 4 Gábor Dömötör - Chairman